tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post4653493651481651263..comments2024-03-09T10:14:07.193+00:00Comments on Dave Gorman: Like a horse and carriage...Dave Gormanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02260701102207639816noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-2428288499048335472012-03-02T12:51:16.211+00:002012-03-02T12:51:16.211+00:00the best piece of advice I read for those who oppo...the best piece of advice I read for those who oppose same-sex marriage:<br /><br />'If you are in opposition to same-sex marriage, we strongly advise that you don't marry anyone of the same sex as yourself'.<br /><br />Kind of sums up your logic in a nutshell (and apologies for lack of attribution!)...Lydianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-31013623590322766642012-02-29T23:03:21.334+00:002012-02-29T23:03:21.334+00:00I used to go out with a bloke who said that ginger...I used to go out with a bloke who said that gingers should only marry other gingers so as to minimise the spread of ginger in the gene pool. Perhaps we could use that argument with FunkyDung - if gay people only marry other gay people, it will minimise the spread of teh gay in the gene pool. Or something.Kirsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17342450348681787211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-69464764873074228732012-02-29T20:57:05.821+00:002012-02-29T20:57:05.821+00:00Huh. Nope. Don't think I understood that.
He...Huh. Nope. Don't think I understood that. <br /><br />Here in Sweden same sex marriages have been legal for a few years now, and we're still waiting for that downfall of Western civilization as we know it. *shrug*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-90702240574322646082012-02-29T17:22:32.911+00:002012-02-29T17:22:32.911+00:00I hope that Funky is a red head, because you know ...I hope that Funky is a red head, because you know what Tim Minchin says...<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVN_0qvuhhwMarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-67041392662404684172012-02-29T13:58:09.230+00:002012-02-29T13:58:09.230+00:00You do get into lots of arguments these days don&#...You do get into lots of arguments these days don't you?Rjshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14019918931291239907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-87786288764858369752012-02-29T09:45:22.405+00:002012-02-29T09:45:22.405+00:00@Squander Two: I though the piece was interesting....@Squander Two: I though the <a href="http://janegalt.net/blog/archives/005244.html" rel="nofollow">piece</a> was interesting... but that it amounted to a more articulate version of the same argument. <br /><br />Instead of saying bad-things-will-happen-and-I'm-not-going-to-tell-you-what-they-are it says bad-things-<i>might-concievably-happen</i>-and-I'm-sure-we-can-all-imagine-what-they-are.<br /><br />It posits a marginal-marriage-candidate who might choose not to get married for reasons we can only imagine and suggests that if this happens, the institution of marriage will be weaker.<br /><br />I don't agree. It suggests the maths is simply the-more-people-who-get-married-the-better-it-is-for-all-of-us-and-the-better-it-is-for-the-institution-of-marriage.<br /><br />I disagree. I think bad marriages are bad. And good marriages are good. The goal is not to encourage as many marriages as possible, but to encourage those who will benefit from it to do so and those who won't to not do so.<br /><br />Marriage isn't a magic potion. It just feels like one when it's good.Dave Gormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260701102207639816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-12739239324480971132012-02-29T09:14:47.666+00:002012-02-29T09:14:47.666+00:00@Mike: in this case I think you're wrong. I kn...@Mike: in this case I think you're wrong. I know what a troll is. I don't think he is one per se. I think the effect is the same - which is why I blocked him. But I think he is interested in my point of view and he does believe that he is expressing his. He just does it badly. The end result = trolling. But strictly speaking, I don't think he's <em>trying</em> to be. <br /><br />If you read the other exchange - linked to in the blog - it's similar (but much shorter) and equally heartfelt on the other person's side.Dave Gormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260701102207639816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-45923827856246344752012-02-29T08:27:31.835+00:002012-02-29T08:27:31.835+00:00Dave, This guy is a troll; the plague of the inter...Dave, This guy is a troll; the plague of the internet. He's not interested in your actual point of view but only provoking a response and wasting your time.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10676204679140194865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-35837210185475049222012-02-29T07:03:23.461+00:002012-02-29T07:03:23.461+00:00Mr Dung's photo is the front cover of the albu...Mr Dung's photo is the front cover of the album Atom Heart Mother by Pink Floyd and Funky Dung is a section of the title track. Personally, I like Pink Floyd and consider myself fairly normal but this could be a case of too much bad acid. Atom Heart Mother is pretty good but probably one of their weaker albums. However I can enjoy listening to Wish You Were Here for example without in any way being upset by Mr Dung's obvious attachment to Atom Heart Mother - although the fact that I prefer WYWH to the more popular Dark Side of the Moon does potentially make me a sulky teenager too. Where am I going with this ? Don't know really.MikeHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-3052561205329058022012-02-28T22:34:20.835+00:002012-02-28T22:34:20.835+00:00@JasonW Oh, I'm under no illusion that he wasn...@JasonW Oh, I'm under no illusion that he wasn't being a troll. And did say so as I blocked him. I'm also under no illusion that he sincerely believes what he's saying. He's just not able to actually explain why. He wasn't saying things he didn't believe in order to wind me up... he believes every word of it. As do his two friends who chimed in today. And who I blocked promptly because I didn't want to feed more trolls.Dave Gormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260701102207639816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-30683151227755674912012-02-28T21:52:59.193+00:002012-02-28T21:52:59.193+00:00I very much fear you've been very successfully...I very much fear you've been very successfully trolled here.JasonWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-52533456960599920022012-02-28T20:00:15.874+00:002012-02-28T20:00:15.874+00:00I propose (no pun intended) that we just ban all m...I propose (no pun intended) that we just ban all marriage. We need to make it fair to everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-39606220036473136992012-02-28T19:23:28.606+00:002012-02-28T19:23:28.606+00:00As an openly ginger member of our good society, I ...As an openly ginger member of our good society, I am appalled that someone could possibly indicate that my lack of understanding on contentious issues is due to my colouring (although it would explain a lot and excuse me from all future faux pas and allow me to say what the hell I like and put it down to the ginger in me - woo hoo!)Kidding, obviously!<br /><br />Hey Dave, I noticed you wrote this rather lengthy blog at about 2 in the afternoon. Where can I get a job like that?Vicky Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-45514771651605405712012-02-28T19:10:19.873+00:002012-02-28T19:10:19.873+00:00Can I argue against Ginger to Ginger marriages? I&...Can I argue against Ginger to Ginger marriages? I'm a Ginger man and have no desire to marry a Ginger woman. Two Gingers married to each other would undermine the stability of society and erm, something to do with evolution, whatever Funkydung said.KeithNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-49117217172301897532012-02-28T18:10:52.799+00:002012-02-28T18:10:52.799+00:00Hi, Dave.
A good summary of the sensible rational...Hi, Dave.<br /><br />A good summary of the sensible rational and non-hateful argument against gay marriage is here:<br />http://www.janegalt.net/blog/archives/005244.html<br />I think you'll find it interesting.<br /><br />In case you're wondering, I support same-sex marriage, but not in this blase "of course it can't possibly have a down side" way that is so popular: I am sure it will have detrimental effects on society as well as good ones, but think, on balance, it should be introduced. <br /><br />It pisses me off no end that most of the people arguing against it are tongue-dragging imbeciles of the variety you appear to have run into, as I love a good argument and they don't provide one.Squander Twohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06968628314723491478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-17420485889301051522012-02-28T18:08:52.879+00:002012-02-28T18:08:52.879+00:00Sometimes I dye my hair ginger (although I prefer ...Sometimes I dye my hair ginger (although I prefer to call it red) but right now it is blonde. Perhaps this is why I agree with Dave. Same sex marriage affects the same sex people who do it, not anyone else.Kirsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17342450348681787211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-26008934802821884062012-02-28T17:57:41.083+00:002012-02-28T17:57:41.083+00:00I became more and more confused but I've met p...I became more and more confused but I've met people who fight against homophobia fight against same-sex marriage because the definition is man and woman, none of it makes sense. Or the argument, well the majority ate against it so majority wins, I've yet to hear an argument against same-sex marriage that makes senseemily bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15146886012919011209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-29392915093811983682012-02-28T17:51:40.596+00:002012-02-28T17:51:40.596+00:00You have the patience of a saint! I would have blo...You have the patience of a saint! I would have blocked after his second tweet and the #prejudice. <br />I find it too frustrating when people want to prove you wrong but don't engage with any questions or points made. His 'ginger' comment was genius though.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15254485317216371585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-10289132656029931502012-02-28T17:42:31.688+00:002012-02-28T17:42:31.688+00:00Completely befuddled by he argument too - from a g...Completely befuddled by he argument too - from a ginger straight girl, married to a non-ginger straight man, by a humanist ceremony and civil service to make it legal, neither of us follow any religion. I'm with you Dave, I got married for me, not anyone else or society and other people getting married, or civilly partnered, aren't going to affect me either.Rachelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-20375959948455104372012-02-28T17:31:45.722+00:002012-02-28T17:31:45.722+00:00loved it. Thanks for posting it all - must have ta...loved it. Thanks for posting it all - must have taken ages!Mike Peatmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03385223912601726849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-41094810588283020952012-02-28T17:23:34.341+00:002012-02-28T17:23:34.341+00:00I hate people who say "you don't understa...I hate people who say "you don't understand" when they actually mean "but you're not agreeing with me".Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03361082052102300797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-55341909691078695062012-02-28T17:22:41.469+00:002012-02-28T17:22:41.469+00:00Did anyone else read this and imagine Dave on stag...Did anyone else read this and imagine Dave on stage delivering this. I loved the "ginger" insult too! If I can't make him see...well...it's just down to his ginger hair! Which is lovely by the way. Wherever it may be!Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4588205362847565197.post-41804722241551094712012-02-28T17:04:58.185+00:002012-02-28T17:04:58.185+00:00I loved reading this, could read what you write al...I loved reading this, could read what you write all day, some people are just so beyond frustrating, There is a woman who works on our local council who it totally obsessed with high vis yello jackets and wants to make everyone wear them all the time!!!! I know its a totally dif subjet but she reminded me of the tweeter cuz even when you explain to her that, a, its broad day light, b its a very quiet car park and c we are all adults she still claims we need to wear one for reasons she knows and we should "just know" without actually having to tell us!!!!kimmynoreply@blogger.com